Wednesday 7 December 2011

qsl-tenders.co.uk


www.qsl-tender.co.uk is a Scam website that  is dedicated to taking peoples money unfairly. It operates in an unprofessional and deceptive manner.
The Scam….
New Business’s and existing try to increase there work load…
They are aware there are tender lists that supply potential new contracts…
Many lists are free already, so the information that QSL offers doesnt need to be paid for in the first place, thats the first part of the scam i.e getting people to pay for free information.
Next they offer a free trial of the service but it isnt what it seems.  They hide the true terms and conditions from the unsespecting trialist hopeing that at the very end they dont spot the catch…
The catch is they need to cancel the trial at the end of the 4 week term, or according to them be liable for the full years subscription.
Some people might spot it, some might not, and its the ones who dont who QSL want to catch.
They wait until the trial expires and runs into there supposed subscription phase..
Then low and behold they send out an invoice.
If you try to question them, they get threatening, not the sort of people you want to do business with???
I will be addiing more information, with more links to help people, but in the meantime please leave any comments and don’t dispare.
They are criminals who have devised a clever way of legally extracting money from people, but it is a scam, whatever they say, however they try to dress it up.
The law needs to change and these people need to be banged up, money returned and let good people continue with there business’

QSL - Are scammers


I thought you might be interested in reporting on the following legal scam that many hundreds if not thousands of honest hard working business people are affected by. Two company’s involved, might be others, one is QSL-Tenders - http://www.qsl-tenders.co.uk/ another companies is called BiP solutions - http://www.bipsolutions.com/
They have a website that offers a free trial to a tender list service. Most of these tenders are available free anyway, but honest and sometimes new small business people look at these site’s to try generate more business.
During the trial process you are led through a series of pages where it says, free, free, free, no credit card of financial details are entered so you feel asif its risk free. The real terms are hidden from view and there is an innocuous line that states them – a misleading website…
The trap is that if you don’t cancel the subscription during the 4 weeks you are liable to a full year’s subscription- £700 – £2500 +
Most of the setup emails get spammed, some people don’t read or see the terms and say 5 out of 10 people forget to end the trial. What happens then is an invoice for the full amount arrives soon after the trials expire, they don’t contact you within the trial period or speak to you at the  end, just let it over run, and sting you.
They are putting people out of business and I am one of those people who are struggling to makes ends meet. I now have now an invoice for £1000 for a service I never used only within the free trial period, never wanted, never could afford at those prices and who wasn’t fully aware of the terms and conditions – but because you ticked a box then you are bound.
Please do something to help, there are countless web forums where people are in ruins over being taken for large sums of money from a service and company that doesn’t care about its customers. They just try catching people with the free trial and they using strong arm, threatening tactics to get their money back, it is a Scam.
The governments needs to supports growing business  and protect them from unscrupulous companies that can cripple new and existing business with these high charges that most people can’t afford.

reporting on qsl

here are some sites reporting the scam….


 http://www.sitejabber.com/reviews/www.qsl-tenders.co.uk#16


 http://www.complaintsboard.com/complaints/b-i-p-solutions-glasgow-hull-england-humberside-c301926.html http://www.constructionenquirer.com/2010/06/11/work-leads-free-trial-costs-contractors-dear/ 


http://www.facebook.com/groups/409586475252/ http://www.ukbusinessforums.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=124514

qsl scam


The people at QSL must be quite amoral. Not wrong – because their Ts&Cs probably do stack up, but amoral – and they know exactly what they are doing.
In our case as a new business we signed up to a number of free tender websites including QSL to see how they worked. Like other users we got an invoice out of the blue 2 months later:
- Not a single customer service call in the meantime (unlike every other website).
- Barely clicked on by us (which makes the lack of customer service even more mystifying – do they not care that people don’t use the product?).
The invoice had attached to it a screen print of the page where one signed up to it – has anybody ever heard of that?? They know in advance that their customers will not understand why they have an invoice.
Since then they ignored emails – and worse pretended that they had not received them.
Life is too short so we paid up from personal funds as the business does not have the money – but they make my blood boil! AVOID IT!!!

qsl tender scam


I cannot believe this company. We have been posted a bill of £600.00 for service’s which we havnt not used. Alison Cooks who was extremely rude on the phone said it was in my name and I had to pay this amount. I said “Somebody has used my details, gone into my email and signed me up for it, this is clearly a security breech. Oh and another thing do you have anything with my signature signing up to your service?” Answer I got was ” Thats not our problems, you have a security breech on your side, which is not our problem.”
I logged into the account, and found tenders which were not even in London so they are you could say they are selling invalid goods. 
Can any one help me fiight them. I am willing to pay for someone’s time and help with this matter, instead of paying QSL scammers

qsl tender scam


I own a medium sized media agency. One of my team signed up to what he thought was a free trial and subsequently received an invoice a month later. QSL have been unhelpful and rather agressive in seeking payment even after cancellation.
We design and build websites and in our experience their sign-up tactics are highly dubious in relation to the law. As such we are currently actioning a campaign to expose them and fight back. Our internal PR consultant is putting together a well researched article which will be published in multiple online and offline channels; so if you want to get involved please do get in touch. Contact my personal email

More QSL scams, they keep on scamming


Yes the T&C clearly state that Free Trial will end and automatic subscription will occur but when using a free trail you do so, as i did, in good faith that you would get a genuine opportunity to opt out.
During the free trail i received 0 tenders of interest or relevance to me, my sector and geographic coverage.
I called to see what could be done when the invoice surprisingly landed on my desk but was totally blanked – Natalie took no responsibility, showed no empathy and was adamant that a full years subscription was mine. To me that is as close to a scam as you can get. Sorry.

qsl the tender list scammers


Signed up for the Free Trial, as per the google link. Was impressed with the initial setup but this was just for research. Used the service for about a week to see if anything of interest dropped and realised this wasnt for us.
Hay presto the boss pulls me into the office wondering why a £580 invoice has hit the desk. This was after nothing from the QSL site to me warning that the subscription was ending and a charge would follow.
On calling the company (opening hours 9-5 but answer phone not turned off untill after 9.30). I spoke to a woman involved stating there was an issue only to receive a well prepared speach on T&C’s. I will accept that i should have read a little deeper but again i dont think you can get any close to a scam than this, The option of a free trial is that you get to trial it then if you are happy you Buy the service. As per the people below i will be reporting this to trading standards and i hope that more people will follow in this.

Another QSL Tender Scam

Don’t Sign up for the qsl-tenders website – I stumbled across this website offering a 15 days free facility so I signed up a couple of weeks later I recieved an invoice for £395.00.
When I contacted them they told me that the invoice was the cost in advance of use of the website ,which I didn’t require .
When I explained that I wasn’t a company and didn’t require their service the attitude was tough ,pay up or we will set a debt collection agency on you.
I must have communicated with them about14 times and their attitude remains the same,
pay up or else.
I would suggest that anybody needing this type of service should use other similiar sites as these people are only interested in signing you up to a contract and chasing you for money .
If you where not happy with a product you could return it to a shop and have it replaced or get your money back. These people are clearly not interested in building relationships just grabbing money .

qsl-tenders – Scam found


A year ago my friend and I had been recently made redundant and so we wanted to explore working freelance. To help us with this we set up a limited company in my freind’s name. I subscribed to a couple of free website to receive tenders, whcih included QSL. None of the free e-mail bulletins that we received were useful, and so after a while we even stopped checking them. I completely forgot about QSL as their emails were going into our junk mail and I did not recall reading anything about having to pay a full year’s subscription. Just a couple of months ago my freind received an email from them demanding for her to pay the £600 (the full year’s subscription). My friend explained that we had not received any of their email and that they had gone direct into our junk mail. 
Anyway, to cut a long story short, now QSL are taking my friend to court in October and demanding a payment of £900. I feel very bad about this, as I was the one to sign up for these e-mails, though neither of us have used their services. The company is in her name, though she has me down as her associate on the website, so legally she’s is one responsible for payment.
They’re obviously a ruthless and devious bunch of individuals who are using this misleading way of signing up for free e-bulletins to extort money from people. I feel so angry, but I do not know what my legal position is. I wonder if anyone who has had a similar experience would be inetersted in taking action against them jointly? We might have a better chance acting together. We need to stop these people from carrying on conning unsuspecting people in this way.

Another unhappy QSL customer


I have had similar experience with QSL as described by the people above, and now I’ve been summoned to appear at a court. Today I spoke with “Consumer Direct” about QSL, who have subsequently forwarded a complaint to trading standards. They also added that the more people who complain to them about that scumbag company, the better. Consumer Direct can be contacted on                         0845 404 0506            . If you do ring them, it might be useful to mention the reference number I was given for my complaint: SE4368599.
I will be reporting this on other scam warning websites so that more people will ring about them. It’ll also be nice if anyone from QSL notices this, too. I honestly don’t know how they’ve managed to get away with this for so long.

qsl -scam


PLEASE DO NOT USE QSL UNLESS YOU HAVE A SPARE £800 YOU JUST WANT TO THROW AWAY ON NOTHING……………SCAM…SCAM….SCAM
Hi I am the owner of a small business on the isle of wight and I am on the causality list for being scammed by QSL
I have never posted or complained about any thing but this really needs to be dealt with. I have spoken to trading standards as we are a member ourselves and they say although this company are immoral and with out standards their language is legal………..
very clever people behind this, this is just a modern way for theft.

Another person who like QSL?

Do not sign up for any of their products what so ever it’s a 100% scam and they know it. They have ripped me off with a pathetic invoice for £800 and i won’t take it likely. I have been reading the threads and you have some clowns who really are QSL staff posting comments on here saying how good they are. Have you ever seen smoke without fire???? Look at the comments do you honestly think this is a one off. The problem with QSL most people give in and pay typical English well-mannered people, too nice for their own good sometimes. We are stitched up enough in this country and to have these idiots who think they will get away with it well time always comes round. If QSL think this is good business practise to suck money from people with cleverly worded bull$#*! that will never stand up FELTHOUSE & BINDLY just because you don’t receive silence is not acceptance by no means. They will have the Roth of me next week as my patience is running out quickly and when they see me in person they will understand the meaning of $#*!ing me off or anyone for that matter. BIG BIG BIG mistake *
Please anyone from QSL egger to reply, you know my name wait till you see me you will never forget it

Another person who found QSL to be less than fair and honest


Do not sign up to the QSL tenders “Free Trial” as it is not a free trial, they do not make this clear when signing up, they just send an invoice in the post!
This is an outrageous scam!

qsl makes someone unhappy


This company, will lull you into thinking you are entering a casual agreement to view what they do. In the small print, there is an OPT OUT clause, so you are OPTING IN, by agreeing to view what they do. THIS WILL COST YOU A YEARS SUBSCRIPTION £ 6 9 5 !!! OPT OUT IF YOU DON’T WANT TO USE IT!
They have no commitment to their company, they don’t believe it can sell itself, so STING you by hiding it from you.
If they had any confidence in their company, they wouldn’t try and trick people into using it
If you are foolish enought to try this company, make sure you cancel on the website, emailing them is futile as they will bill you for a years subscription (£695), which, to be honest, you if are a multi national company, you’re own company does what they do all the time. If you’re a small company, you have to travel miles and miles to do any of the jobs they have on their site, they are multi million pound deals, which if you are small you will be overselling yourself and be unable to compete.
Worse mistake I ever made.
DON’T GIVE THEM YOUR COMPANY NUMBER
DON’T FORGET TO GO TO WEBSITE TO END WITHIN ALOTTED TIME
DON’T BOTHER, THERE ARE FREE SITES THAT DO THE SAME JOB, WHO DO BELIEVE IN THEMSELVES AND CAN GET YOU ACTUAL JOBS, NO MONEY INVOLVED!!!
PUT QSL OUT OF WORK, THEY DESERVE IT FOR ALL THE PEOPLE THEY HAVE RIPPED OFF
http://www.e-customer-satisfaction.com/rev/2612/sting-in-the-small-print/details.php

QSL Tenders – Scam tender company


A year or so ago we decided to take a proactive approach to our marketing and look at tender business, so we agreed to try out the service offered by QSL tenders. After a two week initial trial we agreed to sign up for a year and QSL duly sent us an invoice.
No problem we thought, and paid the bill for one year’s subscription.
After a few months we realised that the information that we were getting from QSL tenders was not really of any use to what we were doing, so we stopped using the service, and just let the subscription run to its normal expiry.
After all, on the welcome page of their website, its states that if you do not cancel your trial by the agreed date, your subscription will continue for a further 12 months and we( QSL tenders) will invoice your business.
This to us is concise, straightforward and easy to understand.
However what QSL tenders should have added, is that we ( QSL tenders) will automatically renew your subscription, indefinitely, until you give notice to cancel your subscription, and this notice to be by email only.
So beware of QSL tenders cancellation policy as it is not what we would normally expect in business, and it is not made clear when you sign up for the free trial and subsequent subscription.
QSL tenders do make their cancellation policy very clear in their terms and conditions, which are sent to you, highlighted in red, once you have fallen foul of their cancellation policy
So beware of this as the trial may cost you more than expected.
Whilst looking into this matter we searched the internet for QSL tenders and found more than a few pages of comments about their general business practices.
We are not here to make comment about them, but they certainly made for interesting reading
http://www.chworkspace.co.uk/blog/advice/qsl-tenders-important-advice.htm

more QSL Tender Scam


Yes same experience I am afraid, if you google qsl tenders scam you will find literally hundreds of complaints.      
http://www.e-customer-satisfaction.com/rev/2435/qsl-tenders-is-a-scam/details.php      

more qsl scams


DO NOT USE THIS SERVICE, THE WEB-SITE IS FULL OF LOOPHOLES, THEY WILL CHARGE YOU £695 FOR A SERVICE YOU CAN GET FREE OF CHARGE ON MANY OTHER TENDER SITES. LOOK THEM UP ON WEB, LOADS OF COMPLAINTS.              
www.e-customer-satisfaction.com/rev/2379/scam-do-not-use/details.php

qsl tender scam


I view there web site as a guest i then sent a email to cancel any subscriptions the cliam they never got it. Now they want full balance of £1400 for a site i dont want or can use. they offered me a settlement of £581.75. Or take me to court for the full BALANCE. PLEASE STAY CLEAR

qsl still scamming away


Contractors signing up for a “free-trial” to an online work leads service have been left fuming after receiving bills for £695.
QSL Tenders offers the free four-week trial of its contract leads service to new customers on its website.
But firms who don’t want to continue using the service must cancel within the 28-day trial period or face a £695 bill for a full year’s subscription.
One scaffolding contractor told the Enquirer: “I received an email offering a four week free trial to receive government tenders and I thought what have I got to lose?
“I logged on a couple of times at the start of the free trial but found it wasn’t really what I wanted but didn’t really worry about it because it was a free trial, or so I thought.
“Six weeks later I received an invoice for £695 saying that my free trial had ended and I now had to pay for something I have hardly used and don’t want any more.”
Another contractor added: “The invoice came as a complete shock because if this had been made clear when signing up I would never have gone through with registering for the free trial in the first place.”
QSL Tenders Sales Director Gordon Hosie said that all the terms and conditions were made clear on the company’s website.
He said: “We make it very clear in our terms and conditions that people will be charged for a year’s subscription unless they cancel before the end of the trial period.
“It is very easy to cancel and we also allow people to cancel after that date for 25% of the annual fee.
“Some people do think ours is a free service but that’s not the case. We are offering a business service for which we charge a very reasonable fee which equates to less that £2 a day for work leads.”
QSL Tenders is one of a number of contract leads services charging construction companies for work leads which consist mainly of projects published in the OJEU.
Leads are available for free on this website athttp://www.constructionenquirer.com/contract-spy/ojeu-tenders

Forum of Private Business advisor warns against ‘free trial’ tender subscription sites


An adviser to the Forum of Private Business has highlighted ‘tender scam’ websites offering ‘free trials’ and the problem some companies face from taking up their offer.
The Forum’s public procurement adviser, Tim Williams of Millstream Associates Ltd, a procurement specialist and the organisation behind TendersDirect.co.uk, said:
“Public sector procurement is big business and directly accounts for almost 50% of the total market for goods and services in the UK and substantially more than 50% if the downstream supply chain is taken into account.
There is a lot of information available on opportunities to supply the public sector, for example the Official Journal of the European Union (OJEU) publishes virtually all contracts with a value greater than £150,000 and the UK Government introduced its Contracts Finder website earlier this year to fill the information gap on contracts worth less than £150,000, which are the ones probably of most interest to smaller companies.
“Unfortunately, neither the Official Journal or Contracts Finder provide a comprehensive answer as there are many, many more contracts awarded by local authorities, NHS trusts and other public sector bodies that aren’t advertised on either of these services.”
He added: “The expensive answer to this problem is to employ someone to search through all of the individual public sector websites, newspapers and trade journals, looking for relevant opportunities, or more realistically take out a subscription with one of the private sector tender information services.
“If you decide to subscribe to a service the next problem is how to decide which to choose as the costs and the quality of information can vary quite widely. Quite a few of these services offer a free trial, so that for a limited period you get full access to the information they are able to provide and can determine whether they offer your company value for money.
“This seems like a good idea but the sting in the tail is that most of these free trials require you to commit to a full year’s subscription in advance, so even if you decide that the service isn’t for you but don’t cancel within the free trial period you become liable for the full year’s subscription.
“Unfortunately many companies inadvertently fall foul of this trap either because they forget to cancel, cannot prove that they did cancel, or that a new or an ex-employee took out the free trial without authorisation.
“You only have to enter “tender scams” into a search engine to discover a whole host of complaints against firms that offer a free trial, but then tie in unwitting companies who don’t really want the service for an often exorbitant charge.
“Sometimes these complaints arise because the billing system isn’t particularly well designed, but the most frequent complaints are about companies which have adopted a rather unethical business model and rely on confusion and fear in order to maximise their income.
Millstream Associates Ltd’s TendersDirect service does not offer free trials but instead provides a free search of all contracts in its database going back five years.
“The problem for us is that there is quite a lot of work involved in setting up a new customer to ensure that we get their profile right and provide them with relevant information, whether that’s for a year’s subscription, or just for a 4 week free trial.
“The approach we have adopted is that visitors to our website can search the last 5 years of our entire database and can read the full details of any of the older tenders free of charge, but if you want to see the current opportunities you have to subscribe.
“Our reasoning is that it allows a potential customer to assess whether we have information that will be useful to them, as the volume and type of tenders issued over the past few months is a good indicator of what’s likely to be published over the next few months. It’s not an ideal solution, but on balance we think it’s preferable to making companies pay for a service that they don’t really want or need.
Mr Williams said that public contract tendering is not necessarily the correct route for every business.
“That leads me neatly on to the next important factor, which is that while the Prime Minister and the Cabinet Office are vigorously promoting transparency and opportunities for SME’s, it’s a fact that tendering for public contracts isn’t suitable for every business.
“Increasingly public sector procurement staff are adopting a tick box approach to tenders, so that you must have accreditation to demonstrate your compliance with ISO’s 9001, 27001, 14001, CHAS health & safety, equal opportunities, environmental sustainability, etc. These all take time and money to put in place, so while there are significant opportunities to be won, there is also a significant investment to be made, even before you will be invited to tender.
He concluded with advice for potential public tenderers: “In summary, tender information services do provide a useful service, almost certainly much more cost effectively than you can research the same information yourself. But be careful, make sure you read the small print and if you decide not to proceed with the service make sure you cancel any free trial in plenty of time and keep a record of your cancellation.
“Put in the groundwork to make sure you are prepared for all the certificates and qualifications that you will be asked to provide, as it will be too late once the tender documents have been issued. Access to information on tenders isn’t much use unless you can actually win some of that business.”

http://www.thedrum.co.uk/news/2011/09/15/forum-private-business-advisor-warns-against-free-trial-tender-subscription-sites

QSL-tenders, Will the complaints against QSL never end?


They have a website that offers a free trial to a tender list service. Most of these tenders are available free anyway, but honest and sometimes new small business people look at these site’s to try generate more business.
During the trial process you are led through a series of pages where it says, free, free, free, no credit card of financial details are entered so you feel asif its risk free. The real terms are hidden from view and there is an innocuous and ambiguous line that states them – a truly misleading website…
The trap is that if you don’t cancel the subscription during the 4 weeks you are liable to a full year’s subscription- £700 – £2500 +
Most of the setup emails get spammed, some people don’t read or see the terms and say 5 out of 10 people forget to end the trial. What happens then is an invoice for the full amount arrives soon after the trials expire, they don’t contact you within the trial period or speak to you at the end, just let it over run, and sting you.
They then threaten legal action, bully and intimidate people, they don’t care a damn about customers.
They are putting people out of business and I am one of those people who are struggling to makes ends meet. I now have now an invoice for £1000 for a service I never used only within the free trial period, never wanted, never could afford at those prices and who wasn’t fully aware of the terms and conditions – but because you ticked a box then you are bound.
Please do something to help, there are countless web forums where people are in ruins over being taken for large sums of money from a service and company that doesn’t care about its customers. They just try catching people with the free trial and they using strong arm, threatening tactics to get their money back, it is a Scam.

QSL-TENDER - SCAM


Hi,
I need some advice re. a possible scam involving an online subscription service.
I work for a start up business, focussed on providing services for the public sector. Consequently, most of our business involves searching and replying to competitive tenders, all of which are published in OJEU [Official Journal of the European Union].
This is often a challenging task, so I recently signed up to a free trial for a website offering a customised search system for all current UK and European tenders. The company is called QSL Tenders.
Unfortunately I failed to cancel the subscription before my free trial expired [mainly because the site was useless and I never logged on after signing up]. However, I did end up cancelling the service 2 weeks later.
Despite this I was sent a bill for £695, claiming that “Our terms and conditions clearly state that you must cancel your account within your 28 day trial period should you not want to continue with the service. Failure to cancel leads to a 12 month subscription at £695.00. No cancellation has been received within this period. Your cancellation was required before the 20/09/2010, but was not placed until 06/10/2010″.
Their T&C’s also claim that there is an option to qualify for an early cancellation fee if you end the subscription within 28 days of the free trial expiring [which I did], however they never presented this as an option.
I’ve done a bit of searching on the web and discovered a lot of complaints on a website called ‘complaintsboard’ as to their service and conduct – see below:
“I know times are tough folks for us small businesses but whatever you do, do not sign up to the 15 day free trial of potential tenders from these people. Even if you do and cancel the free trial within the allocated time period stated, you will be hit with an invoice and an ongoing barrage of threatening emails, phone calls demanding payment. There website is littered with loopholes to entrap you. Finally they will threaten to send the bailiffs in when you still refuse to pay. When you ask to be sent paperwork as proof of their claims that you owe them money, it wont materialise. There are many innocent people out here who have been subject to nothing but constant abuse and harassment from these people. DO NOT PLEASE for your own sanity trial this site”.
“They are insisting I pay £650, when I wrote and cancelled. I tried talking to Natalie Marks, their credit controller who was extremely rude, cold and condesending. She did not listen to me and was quite intimadating. In the end I put the phone down and just cried. I jsut started this new company and don’t need this stress. What can I do? It is her word against mine. I sent the letter off after attempting to cancel online, but my eamail bounced back”.
Signed up for free trial, forgot to cancel and was sent a bill for £695, despite having said the service wasn’t right for our needs. We asked to cancel was told that would cost £205.
“Anyway, took some advice and was told to make them an offer. After 10 minutes of being told “Our directors don’t negotiate” they then said why not email us with an offer. Told then I’d pay £100 to get them off my back and lo and behold they accepted. A) Don’t go near them with a barge pole. B) if you do, stick to your guns. Sod the directors, I suspect they are 2 people with no scruples working out of a lock up. Half the time they can’t be bothered answering the phone or returning messages.Absolute scum!”

The founder – Gordon Hosie – was also recently quoted in an online publication ['construction enquirer'] justifying their practice.
I never thought it was a completely FREE service, but to penalise people so aggressively for a lapse of 2 weeks on cancellation can surely be contested!?
Unfortunately their website is littered with loopholes aimed at targeting the unsuspected! In my opinion, a vicious and underhand business practice!
To this end, I’d really appreciate any legal advice which offers some protection.
Thanks in advance!
http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.php?t=2864704