QSL tenders scam, touch this and sign up for a fight or ££££

I have edited my report after a complaint from Charlie Daisley of QSL Ltd, Unit 7 The Point, Market Harborough, Leicestershire, LE16 7QU, 01858 468 740 charlie.daisley@qsltenders

Company Director :- David Ian Hosie, NN17 2RN

Company Secretary:- Gordon Hosie LE16 7NY (Director change of Particulars GORDON HOSIE 01/01/2010

Charles Daisley said my claims were unsubstantiated!

I have therefore removed any words that I feel were ambiguous and added websites where other people have found the companies method of creating business less than Ethical! if you only follow one of these then please go to:-

http://qsl-tenders-scam.blogspot.com/,  as this is quite comprehensive

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If you are a small business and like all of us feeling the pinch, it looks like a good idea to get free tenders for 4 weeks and see if it works for you!

BEWARE! QSL tenders run an advert that offers just this free for four weeks, however the time you first look for a tender is recorded by QSL the exact time that you start the 4 free weeks (to the minute) you must cancel before this 4 weeks is up or you will be invoiced for the whole year including the first four weeks which are only free if you cancel in time?

The business sends information that is available for free on the internet and although I told them what my business did  the tender info sent was totally irrelevant ?

SO 1 MINUTE AFTER THE DEADLINE I owed them  £595.41 + £103.51 VAT = £695.00  (varies for some reason) with threats to send in the bailiffs as soon as I made contact even though I had written and emailed them... apparently they never got the letter as it was lost in the post, I believe that these people are evil and pray on honest hard working people.

However as most people don't have the time or resources to fight and win the company offer a  reduction in charges to 25% and  I expect most people would see this as the lesser of two evils.

Whilst my "Trial" period ended on the 10th of February 2010 the fight went on for months, They recorded my first log in as at 12.29 on the 13th of January 2010 and although there were only a few  times that I logged on each one was logged to the minute.  My log on was apparently my order confirmation and also my agreement of the T's&C's.

SO  JUST CANCEL ........................... easier said than done! the email that you had in order  to set up the tenders does not accept a cancelation! ( this is from the T's&C's   you miss it you will have to pay).... "We do not accept verbal, written, or email cancellations". you have to write from within your account with them? but usually by the time you have got this far you already owe £695.00, and if you do write ... Mine was LOST IN THE POST ? so I was told that I still owed £695.00,

I had the luxury of time and a terrier attitude that won't let go and set to take them on! I found the business details and directors from 'Companies House for a £ and set forth to contact the directors at home, I contacted their local newspaper and told them what they were up to (making sure I had the name of the reporter Black I think) then Trading standards, OFT etc, whilst calling the directors who would not speak to me on the Phone as I wanted  to ask WHY!

I found that one of the two did a lot of running for charity and made sure I told the charity how he was making his money.

The case number for the OFT is 2755156 agent 'John' who then passed me on to Trading Standards tel. 08454 04 05 06

QSL have loads of bad history, but don't take my word for it go to ...

http://www.sitejabber.com/reviews/www.qsl-tenders.co.uk

http://www.complaintsboard.com/complaints/qsl-tenders-england-leicesters...

http://getoutofdebt.org/32732/qsl-tenders-bip-solutions-consumer-complai...

http://www.e-customer-satisfaction.com/rev/2435/qsl-tenders-is-a-scam/de...

http://www.businesswatchdog.net/#

http://www.scam.com/showthread.php?t=146236   

The list goes on and on

Good luck with your business

Phil Evans

http://foulbusiness.co.uk/review/qsl-ltd/1170.html#comment-2601

QSL Tenders - will they ever change????? NO of course not...

I agree with everything that Mr Evans has posted above. QSL are a company that use's it website to catch people with there terms and conditions.

QSL make sure they dont contact you during the trial or at the end of it making sure it runs over and then sting you with a large invoice. They have been exposed on coutless web forumns but they are obviously making good money out of people with this scam. 

They do not listen to the coutless people who have complained, they just carry on threatening and trying to criminlise honest business people. 

Please also note that all public sector tenders are avaialble free anyway  - http://www.contractsfinder.businesslink.gov.uk/ so they are reslling free info.

http://foulbusiness.co.uk/review/qsl-ltd/1170.html#comment-2601

Short and Sweet - qsl are scam dont pay them a penny total scam

qsl are scam dont pay them a

Anonymous (not verified) — Thu, 16/02/2012 - 8:10pm

qsl are scam dont pay them a penny total scam

http://foulbusiness.co.uk/review/qsl-ltd/1170.html#comment-2602

QS HELL - Got caught in this 'honey-trap' set by this unethical company

Got caught in this 'honey-trap' set by this unethical company.  If their business is so good, why would they need to trap ppl into taking it up?  It would thrive on reputation instead of spending all their time writing up bills that no one asked for or wanted.

'Opt out' companies must be desperate parasites to earn a living from billing ppl with the year's subscription from a supposedly free trial.  I had emailed them to say 'I cancel' within the hour of signing up. 

I am disgusted with this practise...parasites! bleeding honest hard working companies of their meagre income

SHAME ON THEM...QS HELL....

http://foulbusiness.co.uk/review/qsl-ltd/1170.html#comment-2612

qsl-tenders.co.uk

www.qsl-tender.co.uk is a Scam website that  is dedicated to taking peoples money unfairly. It operates in an unprofessional and deceptive manner.

The Scam….

New Business’s and existing try to increase there work load…

They are aware there are tender lists that supply potential new contracts…

Many lists are free already, so the information that QSL offers doesnt need to be paid for in the first place, thats the first part of the scam i.e getting people to pay for free information.

Next they offer a free trial of the service but it isnt what it seems.  They hide the true terms and conditions from the unsespecting trialist hopeing that at the very end they dont spot the catch…

The catch is they need to cancel the trial at the end of the 4 week term, or according to them be liable for the full years subscription.

Some people might spot it, some might not, and its the ones who dont who QSL want to catch.

They wait until the trial expires and runs into there supposed subscription phase..

Then low and behold they send out an invoice.

If you try to question them, they get threatening, not the sort of people you want to do business with???

I will be addiing more information, with more links to help people, but in the meantime please leave any comments and don’t dispare.

They are criminals who have devised a clever way of legally extracting money from people, but it is a scam, whatever they say, however they try to dress it up.

The law needs to change and these people need to be banged up, money returned and let good people continue with there business’

QSL - Are scammers

I thought you might be interested in reporting on the following legal scam that many hundreds if not thousands of honest hard working business people are affected by. Two company’s involved, might be others, one is QSL-Tenders - http://www.qsl-tenders.co.uk/ another companies is called BiP solutions - http://www.bipsolutions.com/

They have a website that offers a free trial to a tender list service. Most of these tenders are available free anyway, but honest and sometimes new small business people look at these site’s to try generate more business.

During the trial process you are led through a series of pages where it says, free, free, free, no credit card of financial details are entered so you feel asif its risk free. The real terms are hidden from view and there is an innocuous line that states them – a misleading website…

The trap is that if you don’t cancel the subscription during the 4 weeks you are liable to a full year’s subscription- £700 – £2500 +

Most of the setup emails get spammed, some people don’t read or see the terms and say 5 out of 10 people forget to end the trial. What happens then is an invoice for the full amount arrives soon after the trials expire, they don’t contact you within the trial period or speak to you at the  end, just let it over run, and sting you.

They are putting people out of business and I am one of those people who are struggling to makes ends meet. I now have now an invoice for £1000 for a service I never used only within the free trial period, never wanted, never could afford at those prices and who wasn’t fully aware of the terms and conditions – but because you ticked a box then you are bound.

Please do something to help, there are countless web forums where people are in ruins over being taken for large sums of money from a service and company that doesn’t care about its customers. They just try catching people with the free trial and they using strong arm, threatening tactics to get their money back, it is a Scam.

The governments needs to supports growing business  and protect them from unscrupulous companies that can cripple new and existing business with these high charges that most people can’t afford.

reporting on qsl

here are some sites reporting the scam….


 http://www.sitejabber.com/reviews/www.qsl-tenders.co.uk#16


 http://www.complaintsboard.com/complaints/b-i-p-solutions-glasgow-hull-england-humberside-c301926.html http://www.constructionenquirer.com/2010/06/11/work-leads-free-trial-costs-contractors-dear/ 


http://www.facebook.com/groups/409586475252/ http://www.ukbusinessforums.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=124514

qsl scam

The people at QSL must be quite amoral. Not wrong – because their Ts&Cs probably do stack up, but amoral – and they know exactly what they are doing.

In our case as a new business we signed up to a number of free tender websites including QSL to see how they worked. Like other users we got an invoice out of the blue 2 months later:
- Not a single customer service call in the meantime (unlike every other website).
- Barely clicked on by us (which makes the lack of customer service even more mystifying – do they not care that people don’t use the product?).

The invoice had attached to it a screen print of the page where one signed up to it – has anybody ever heard of that?? They know in advance that their customers will not understand why they have an invoice.

Since then they ignored emails – and worse pretended that they had not received them.

Life is too short so we paid up from personal funds as the business does not have the money – but they make my blood boil! AVOID IT!!!

qsl tender scam

I cannot believe this company. We have been posted a bill of £600.00 for service’s which we havnt not used. Alison Cooks who was extremely rude on the phone said it was in my name and I had to pay this amount. I said “Somebody has used my details, gone into my email and signed me up for it, this is clearly a security breech. Oh and another thing do you have anything with my signature signing up to your service?” Answer I got was ” Thats not our problems, you have a security breech on your side, which is not our problem.”

I logged into the account, and found tenders which were not even in London so they are you could say they are selling invalid goods. 

Can any one help me fiight them. I am willing to pay for someone’s time and help with this matter, instead of paying QSL scammers

qsl tender scam

I own a medium sized media agency. One of my team signed up to what he thought was a free trial and subsequently received an invoice a month later. QSL have been unhelpful and rather agressive in seeking payment even after cancellation.

We design and build websites and in our experience their sign-up tactics are highly dubious in relation to the law. As such we are currently actioning a campaign to expose them and fight back. Our internal PR consultant is putting together a well researched article which will be published in multiple online and offline channels; so if you want to get involved please do get in touch. Contact my personal email

More QSL scams, they keep on scamming

Yes the T&C clearly state that Free Trial will end and automatic subscription will occur but when using a free trail you do so, as i did, in good faith that you would get a genuine opportunity to opt out.

During the free trail i received 0 tenders of interest or relevance to me, my sector and geographic coverage.

I called to see what could be done when the invoice surprisingly landed on my desk but was totally blanked – Natalie took no responsibility, showed no empathy and was adamant that a full years subscription was mine. To me that is as close to a scam as you can get. Sorry.

qsl the tender list scammers

Signed up for the Free Trial, as per the google link. Was impressed with the initial setup but this was just for research. Used the service for about a week to see if anything of interest dropped and realised this wasnt for us.

Hay presto the boss pulls me into the office wondering why a £580 invoice has hit the desk. This was after nothing from the QSL site to me warning that the subscription was ending and a charge would follow.

On calling the company (opening hours 9-5 but answer phone not turned off untill after 9.30). I spoke to a woman involved stating there was an issue only to receive a well prepared speach on T&C’s. I will accept that i should have read a little deeper but again i dont think you can get any close to a scam than this, The option of a free trial is that you get to trial it then if you are happy you Buy the service. As per the people below i will be reporting this to trading standards and i hope that more people will follow in this.

Another QSL Tender Scam

Don’t Sign up for the qsl-tenders website – I stumbled across this website offering a 15 days free facility so I signed up a couple of weeks later I recieved an invoice for £395.00.
When I contacted them they told me that the invoice was the cost in advance of use of the website ,which I didn’t require .
When I explained that I wasn’t a company and didn’t require their service the attitude was tough ,pay up or we will set a debt collection agency on you.
I must have communicated with them about14 times and their attitude remains the same,
pay up or else.
I would suggest that anybody needing this type of service should use other similiar sites as these people are only interested in signing you up to a contract and chasing you for money .
If you where not happy with a product you could return it to a shop and have it replaced or get your money back. These people are clearly not interested in building relationships just grabbing money .

qsl-tenders – Scam found

A year ago my friend and I had been recently made redundant and so we wanted to explore working freelance. To help us with this we set up a limited company in my freind’s name. I subscribed to a couple of free website to receive tenders, whcih included QSL. None of the free e-mail bulletins that we received were useful, and so after a while we even stopped checking them. I completely forgot about QSL as their emails were going into our junk mail and I did not recall reading anything about having to pay a full year’s subscription. Just a couple of months ago my freind received an email from them demanding for her to pay the £600 (the full year’s subscription). My friend explained that we had not received any of their email and that they had gone direct into our junk mail. 

Anyway, to cut a long story short, now QSL are taking my friend to court in October and demanding a payment of £900. I feel very bad about this, as I was the one to sign up for these e-mails, though neither of us have used their services. The company is in her name, though she has me down as her associate on the website, so legally she’s is one responsible for payment.

They’re obviously a ruthless and devious bunch of individuals who are using this misleading way of signing up for free e-bulletins to extort money from people. I feel so angry, but I do not know what my legal position is. I wonder if anyone who has had a similar experience would be inetersted in taking action against them jointly? We might have a better chance acting together. We need to stop these people from carrying on conning unsuspecting people in this way.

Another unhappy QSL customer

I have had similar experience with QSL as described by the people above, and now I’ve been summoned to appear at a court. Today I spoke with “Consumer Direct” about QSL, who have subsequently forwarded a complaint to trading standards. They also added that the more people who complain to them about that scumbag company, the better. Consumer Direct can be contacted on                         0845 404 0506            . If you do ring them, it might be useful to mention the reference number I was given for my complaint: SE4368599.

I will be reporting this on other scam warning websites so that more people will ring about them. It’ll also be nice if anyone from QSL notices this, too. I honestly don’t know how they’ve managed to get away with this for so long.

qsl -scam

PLEASE DO NOT USE QSL UNLESS YOU HAVE A SPARE £800 YOU JUST WANT TO THROW AWAY ON NOTHING……………SCAM…SCAM….SCAM

Hi I am the owner of a small business on the isle of wight and I am on the causality list for being scammed by QSL
I have never posted or complained about any thing but this really needs to be dealt with. I have spoken to trading standards as we are a member ourselves and they say although this company are immoral and with out standards their language is legal………..
very clever people behind this, this is just a modern way for theft.

Another person who like QSL?

Do not sign up for any of their products what so ever it’s a 100% scam and they know it. They have ripped me off with a pathetic invoice for £800 and i won’t take it likely. I have been reading the threads and you have some clowns who really are QSL staff posting comments on here saying how good they are. Have you ever seen smoke without fire???? Look at the comments do you honestly think this is a one off. The problem with QSL most people give in and pay typical English well-mannered people, too nice for their own good sometimes. We are stitched up enough in this country and to have these idiots who think they will get away with it well time always comes round. If QSL think this is good business practise to suck money from people with cleverly worded bull$#*! that will never stand up FELTHOUSE & BINDLY just because you don’t receive silence is not acceptance by no means. They will have the Roth of me next week as my patience is running out quickly and when they see me in person they will understand the meaning of $#*!ing me off or anyone for that matter. BIG BIG BIG mistake *
Please anyone from QSL egger to reply, you know my name wait till you see me you will never forget it

Another person who found QSL to be less than fair and honest

Do not sign up to the QSL tenders “Free Trial” as it is not a free trial, they do not make this clear when signing up, they just send an invoice in the post!
This is an outrageous scam!

qsl makes someone unhappy

This company, will lull you into thinking you are entering a casual agreement to view what they do. In the small print, there is an OPT OUT clause, so you are OPTING IN, by agreeing to view what they do. THIS WILL COST YOU A YEARS SUBSCRIPTION £ 6 9 5 !!! OPT OUT IF YOU DON’T WANT TO USE IT!

They have no commitment to their company, they don’t believe it can sell itself, so STING you by hiding it from you.
If they had any confidence in their company, they wouldn’t try and trick people into using it
If you are foolish enought to try this company, make sure you cancel on the website, emailing them is futile as they will bill you for a years subscription (£695), which, to be honest, you if are a multi national company, you’re own company does what they do all the time. If you’re a small company, you have to travel miles and miles to do any of the jobs they have on their site, they are multi million pound deals, which if you are small you will be overselling yourself and be unable to compete.
Worse mistake I ever made.
DON’T GIVE THEM YOUR COMPANY NUMBER
DON’T FORGET TO GO TO WEBSITE TO END WITHIN ALOTTED TIME
DON’T BOTHER, THERE ARE FREE SITES THAT DO THE SAME JOB, WHO DO BELIEVE IN THEMSELVES AND CAN GET YOU ACTUAL JOBS, NO MONEY INVOLVED!!!
PUT QSL OUT OF WORK, THEY DESERVE IT FOR ALL THE PEOPLE THEY HAVE RIPPED OFF

http://www.e-customer-satisfaction.com/rev/2612/sting-in-the-small-print/details.php

QSL Tenders – Scam tender company

A year or so ago we decided to take a proactive approach to our marketing and look at tender business, so we agreed to try out the service offered by QSL tenders. After a two week initial trial we agreed to sign up for a year and QSL duly sent us an invoice.

No problem we thought, and paid the bill for one year’s subscription.
After a few months we realised that the information that we were getting from QSL tenders was not really of any use to what we were doing, so we stopped using the service, and just let the subscription run to its normal expiry.

After all, on the welcome page of their website, its states that if you do not cancel your trial by the agreed date, your subscription will continue for a further 12 months and we( QSL tenders) will invoice your business.

This to us is concise, straightforward and easy to understand.

However what QSL tenders should have added, is that we ( QSL tenders) will automatically renew your subscription, indefinitely, until you give notice to cancel your subscription, and this notice to be by email only.

So beware of QSL tenders cancellation policy as it is not what we would normally expect in business, and it is not made clear when you sign up for the free trial and subsequent subscription.

QSL tenders do make their cancellation policy very clear in their terms and conditions, which are sent to you, highlighted in red, once you have fallen foul of their cancellation policy

So beware of this as the trial may cost you more than expected.

Whilst looking into this matter we searched the internet for QSL tenders and found more than a few pages of comments about their general business practices.
We are not here to make comment about them, but they certainly made for interesting reading

http://www.chworkspace.co.uk/blog/advice/qsl-tenders-important-advice.htm